Fountain of Youth, Schiller Park, IL

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Cumberland and Irving Park intersection
Schiller Park, IL 60176
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Description:

Hand pump 20-30 yards walk from road.

“This spring is hand pumped out, people have been collecting water for years. It gets busy on the weekends (LINES) so come during the week. I tested the water with home test kit. Lead -negative pesticide- negative Nitrate/nitrite no trace total hardness pretty high, as all water in IL is 120-250 Bacteria- the test turned purple means none detected Chlorine- none water very cold and keeps cold.” – Paul

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Cumberland and Irving Park intersection

Directions from Nearest Address

On south side of Irving park road (IL 19) west of Cumberland (IL 171) very easy to get to, in and out.

Vital Information

  • Fee: None
  • Access: Public
  • Flow: Continuous
  • TDS: 490-500
  • Temp: N/A
  • pH: 7-8.5

Hours Spring is Open:

24/7/365

GPS:

41.952122,-87.844003

Map Link: Fountain of Youth Map

Submitted by: Paul

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Posted: November 28, 2010

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  1. Sciolle36 says:

    It is Schiller Park, not Shiller. The water tastes odd.

    • ChateauTaylor says:

      What do you mean by odd, I am interested in this source. Is it eggy? Like sulfur? metallic,
      scummy?

      • Goldenspiral69 says:

        yes, odd like how? It said the water was “hard” so using a water softener might be best..

        my question is if there is fluoride or not in the water…

        • ChateauTaylor says:

          Ok here is my take on it. I have consumed two gallons of this so far, there is a slight hard water iron, eggy (sulphury) taste to it. But the key word is “slight”. I spent my summer youth on a farm in northern, WI and our water tasted the just like this. It tastes much better than Chicago Tap. I spoke with someone I met there yesterday and he told me there are other hand pumps across the road that you can drive up to when this one was too crowded. Just have to enter the park. I found one of them right away. Plenty of parking on other side also.

          • Mark says:

            I think this water tastes really good. If you crave water from the spring then it is usually of good quality. Water that is hard is not necessarily a bad thing.

        • gigi says:

          I tested the water with a test kit I bought. The water is excellent. It meets all the purity required for a drinking water but one: it is too hard. The # of hardiness should be 50 ppm. This water is 425ppm

      • Syllvka says:

        me and my family have been taking water from there on regular basis and we love it. it doesn’t taste eggy or weird …well i guess if you’re use to drinking bottled water then the good stuff will taste “odd”-lol

      • Rselig1111 says:

        I agree, I used to like it about two months ago, but last outing tasted like Sulfur, and almost 500 TDS reading, my gut tells me to stay away…

  2. Syllvka says:

    the coordinates for this place are off , these are right 41.952122,-87.844003

  3. Syllvka says:

    the coordinates for this place are off , these are right 41.952122,-87.844003

  4. Maro7ak says:

    I collected water from this location on 03 March 2011. My PH papers read 7.0-7.2, and my TDS meter read 490-500. The nearest spring to this location is about an hour away in Kenosha, and the TDS there is better.. 350.

  5. Missbecky says:

    New to the area and have been getting water from this location and loving it. We noticed a similar pump just south of Devon at intersection with River Rd(slightly closer to home). Is anyone familiar with this source?

    • Mark Brady says:

      No, why don’t ya go there and add it to the database!

    • gigi says:

      There are many similar pumps anywhere, but I guess, the water is not potable in all of them. I think the water should be tested first and meet all the requirements to be registered as drinkable. I would not try any water is not registered. Event it is registered, you have the responsibility to test it to give it to your family.

  6. Janelle says:

    What is the ideal container to pump into? I have never done this before but I am so sick of feeding my son chlorine and fluoride and want to try this well. Is there bacteria in the water? Would it mess up the molecular structure to run it through a charcoal filter? Any advice is much appreciated!

    • Mark Brady says:

      I like this water as is. I really think it is the fountain of youth. It’s a little hard, but it’s good mineral water! Comes out cold and quick, and it passes my feel, taste, and intuition test. Drink up!

  7. Mark Brady says:

    I went to get this water last night, and the handle for the pump had been removed! So I couldn’t get water. Does anyone know what happened? Or who to call to get it fixed?

    • Rachelk1818 says:

      I went yesterday, too, and saw that it was broken. Do you know if this is in a state park? I thought about calling the Chicago park district, but I don’t think they maintain this park.

  8. Carpets3000 says:

    Are there any updates on the broken handle to the water pump ?

  9. Carpets3000 says:

    Are there any updates on the broken handle to the water pump ?

  10. John says:

    I went today and got water at a different pump in the forest. It came out clear but when we got home all the water was yellow. Is this normal? Safe to drink? Thank you for any info!

    • Carpets3000 says:

      I don’t think that’s normal.That might be ground water. The water I pump from the spring here is crystal clear. Do you know if the handle was still missing in that main pump?

      • John says:

        I did drive by the pump and no one was there. So I’m not sure if it has been fixed. I went to a pump on the street that runs into Irving park. I guess that pump gets water from a different source?

    • deb says:

      We used to have a pump in my backyard as a kid. It always came out yellow when no one used it for a while (can’t remember how long it would sit). All we had to do was “prime” it – - meaning, just pump a bunch of water out until it runs clear. My guess is that you just needed to prime it.

    • Drinksafe says:

       I did the same thing and when we got it home it turning yellow. I’m not sure if were going to drink it yet. The main is still not operating so we went into the forest to pump. It also had a egg smell 

  11. Mark Brady says:

    The Fountain of Youth is good to go! I called the Well Division of the Cook County Forest Preserve at the number (708) 771-1551 and the Gloria who works their was very helpful told me that someone has been stealing handles from the pumps and that a police report was filed today. Also, they tested the water and it tested well (pun). So call Gloria at the number above if you have any other questions about any wells in the Cook County area.

  12. Will.I.Am says:

    Thank the heavens! Something closer than Kenosha!  Thank you!!!!

  13. Carpets3000 says:

    So what happened to the pump now?? The handle is gone again and there is a small red tag that says closed for treatment????

  14. guest says:

    the water tastes yucky!

  15. Linda says:

    I went there today, a week day.  It was worth the hour drive to get there.  The water tastes clean and pure with a fairly high mineral content.  The pump worked fine.  Since it took me awhile to get there I filled up a bunch of bottles – odds n’ ends of bottles I’ve saved.  While there a few other folks came for water – some to fill cups or water bottles, one with a 1/2 gal. bottle, and a couple with 5-gal. bottles.  No one had to wait more than a couple of minutes for a turn at the pump, which was working just fine.  Everyone who came by while I was there was from the area, and said there are always lines on the weekends.  So glad for this site, and loving the  fluoride-free, chlorine-free water!

  16. mc says:

    My whole family has been getting water from this spring for the past 10 years. We use 5 gallon water jugs with a water fountain. The initial investment is higher then other methods but it pays off in the long run and is very convenient. The jugs have to be cleaned once every 3 months due to algae growth. But it’s no big deal. I clean it with baking soda and bottle brush and rinse with hydrogen peroxide. 
    The water tastes great, and none of us have ever developed any health problems that we could attribute to it. One time I met an older gentlemen by the pump who said he’s been drinking this water for the past 50 years. He was 90 at that time and he praised that spring for his longevity. 
    The place gets very busy in late afternoon hours (between 5 pm — 8pm), and on the weekends. It’s a good idea to have a funnel or a small piece of a 2 by 4 or something else to put underneath the bottle so it aligns with the pump outlet. Otherwise, the bottle has to be held at an angle by hand and in the Winter it can be too cold to hold it in place.
    I also heard stories of folks having their cars robbed, so it’s important to lock the doors, especially if it’s dark and busy with folks coming in and out. Some people leave their trunks wide open, so it’s easy to invite opportunistic thieves. 
    It’s also very common to see large herds of deer very close to the pump. Unfortunately, people bring left over food and feed it to the deer, and it’s a problem. So please do not feed the deer, they can find their own sources of food in the close by woods. 

    Does anyone know how deep this well it? Any geologists aware of the rock composition that the well is going through?
     

  17. pinkfork says:

    Hey folks! I too want to stop drinking chlorine and fluoride water. I’ve started drinking this water, but am also wondering where it’s from, what’s in it, etc. I called the County and they said the state Dept of Public Health is responsible for testing all the wells in the state. I was told they only test for bacteria and nitrates/nitrites, not for other contaminants. There are many contaminated wells in the country, and I imagine there’s been plenty of underground oil tanks, spills, and myriad other types of industrial waste in the area. There’s even underground nuclear waste storage along the Desplaines River! Anyway, it would be good to know what’s in the water, especially considering so many people drink it as their main water supply.

    IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPLIT THE COST OF TESTING THIS WATER WITH ME, PLEASE REPLY TO THIS POST. THE TEST COSTS BETWEEN $79-$169, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY CONTAMINANTS WE WANT TO TEST FOR. WE COULD THEN POST THIS INFORMATION AT THE WELL FOR ALL TO SEE. I contacted the Public Health lab and they haven’t gotten back to me yet, but I’m fairly sure they haven’t conducted a comprehensive test (because it is pricy). Though anecdotal stories about 90 year olds are good, I also think it’s important to rely on some scientific data (some people smoke and are 90, but that doesn’t make it safe). I’d just like to get some data behind the idea that this spring is very healthy.

    • BB says:

      I can kick in $10 towards the test.  Hopefully others will come forward as well.

    • Linda says:

      I could pitch in $10.  I like the water and like that it’s free of chlorine and not fluoridated.  It would be good to know what’s in it, especially compared to tap water, which of course is polluted too.

      Just an fyi to all – this is a well, not really a spring.  By definition a spring naturally flows out of the ground without a pump.

    • pinkfork says:

      I still plan on testing it, but need to do the research first. If anyone has any layman’s info on water contaminants and how to interpret water tests, please forward the links.

      • Eck says:

        I can put some money towards this too.  Unrelated: has anyone here noticed a change in skin tone from drinking this water?  I visited family this weekend and they remarked that my skin looks yellowish.  Maybe a result of high sulfur content?  I’ve been drinking this water almost exclusively for about 6 months.  It’s the only thing I can think of, since I’m not eating loads of carrots, and health-wise I’ve never felt better.  Any of
        you other frequent spring-goers experiencing this? 

    • Showmetheveggies says:

      I went to this pump today 2/3/12 and the handle was taken off and a red tag was applied ti the handle stated its being tested for treatment???? What’s the number you called to find out what this means and how long it will be shut down and why was it shut down….. OR has this pump been purchased by a corporation… Blue Gold or has it been shut down because of chemicals???

      • BB says:

        I ended up buying a RO system with the waste water being used for laundry, so I will be taking back my offer for testing funds.If you find out a corporation has taken over this well, please let us know.  Whether I use this water or not, it’s just plain wrong and most likely illegal to give a corporation sole rights to bottle it.  And if you know what government officials to contact also post that.
        It would be a real shame if the county would exclude residents to use this as a source of revenue.

      • Gosialen says:

        .Spoke to Gloria today and they should get tests back today or tomorrow. If the water test negative for contaminates they will put the handle back. So, no worries everyone:)

      • Windinthewillows says:

        Can’t we just contact the Cook County Forest Preserve and ask them what’s up? I wanna go buy a 5-gallon thingie if everything checks out;)  But one question: I think I drank from this thing and it smells like rotten eggs. Is that the sulphur and how could the water be so alkaline?

    • Did you ever test this water source?

  18. Windinthewillows says:

    Question for you guys: I live in the Western ‘Burbs. Schiller Park is not too far from my house! But what about other Cook County forest preserve pumps? Is well water automatically spring water?

    • primal says:

      I’ve seen many other manual pumps along the line of the Forest Preserve but never any folks actually using them. As a matter of fact I check out some of them myself and it seemed as if they were sparsely used. 
      One explanation could be that they are not easily accessible, so folks do not frequent them. Another explanation is that they are not as good as the one listed here. There’s no evidence to prove any of that. Until all of them are tested officially we can’t say which one should be used. 

    • Linda says:

      It’s a misnomer calling this a spring.  Both spring and well water originate underground.  The difference is that springs emerge from the ground naturally, while wells require a pump to bring the water to the surface.  So this is actually well water, just like the water coming from other Forest Preserve pumps.  As Primal says, unless the water is tested it’s hard to say much about its quality or how it compares to water from other Forest preserve pumps.

  19. Rudy10298 says:

    Good that I found this site. I can easily test this water for any bacterial contamination. Will post the results soon.

    • pinkfork says:

      The water is already tested by the state for bacterial contamination. There is absolutely no bacterial contamination of this well. Hundreds of people drink the water, and have been for decades. I called the County a couple weeks ago and they informed me that it is tested for nitrates and bacteria.

      • Linda says:

        It would be reassuring to know the chemical concentrations in the water – airport and Industrial runoff, golf course and lawn chemicals, etc. It’s great having a fluoride and chlorine-free water source, and it would be good to know how the water compares to city water for the same chemicals city water is tested for. 

        On the other hand, plain common sense makes it hard to imagine it could be worse for toxic chemicals than surface water is.

    • Showmetheveggies says:

       have you tested this water yet?? What were the results??

  20. Chell says:

    I wish I didn’t live so far away. I’m way down here in Hillsboro. :(

  21. Peter says:

    Has anyone done any tests on this water as of late? It is currently 12/16/2011, and the website isnt showing the dates of anyones posts on my screen for some reason. I live about an hour away from this particular well, and I read some people saying it has been tasting odd as of late, and wanted to verify if that is still the case or not.

    • Sjowmetheveggies says:

       I went tonight to get some water and the pump handle was taking off and red tagged for treatment????? I guess there’s a problem with the water or some corporation is buying it. You know its the the blue gold… Oh well I guess no more pumping for us at this site for while…. SO MUCH FOR FREEDOM

  22. Lsa007 says:

    Spoke to maintenance at Indian Boundary (Cook County) today.  The pumps are only shut down if handle is gone due to contamination or dried up.  This pump has a tag for testing so it should be up within a week!

  23. Pawel1686 says:

    There is other pumps in the forest, but the water taste is off. Maybe its cause its not pumped as much as the other one is.

  24. Drinksafe says:

    is the pump working yet anyone know??? today is 2/16/12 any updates 

  25. tom says:

     http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1788766/pg1

    All this talk of fluoride, I thought I’d provide a good read.  This pump is 3 miles from my home and I’ve driven by it a hundred times.  After reading this forum, I will be gettin g my water from this source from now on…cheers

  26. PUREWATER says:

    IS THIS PUMP WORKING AGAIN?? I DROVE THERE 3 TIMES AND THE HANDLE WAS STILL GONE??? TODAY IS 2/27/12 CAN SOMEONE PLEASE UPDATE US.

  27. Natalie! says:

    hi guys! today is march 4th and I went to this location and the handle is back! enjoy your spring water :) :)

    • Pinkfor says:

      You mean well water? Why does everyone think this is a spring? It’s not spring water!

      • Narnsw2 says:

        well the only difference is that spring water flows continually without the use of a pump right? but still has the same beneficial properties I would assume since it has not been exposed to the environment  

        • Nathan says:

          On principle alone I must respond to this, spring water infers that it originated from a spring—i.e. Mountains flowing downward, filtered through sediments and other naturally occuring processes which add algaes, flora, and other various balanced systems of life. Well water, well comes from within the Earth, tracing its source back to above ground bringing with it all the wonderful pesticides inherent in our capitalistic pesticide and chemical based society. I have personally gotten sick after drinking well water(E.R. multiple times, liver damage, had to go Veggie/Vegan for 3 months..), most proportedly from the toxins from Bacillus thuringiensis modified corn,
          which soak through the ground from chaff and leftovers of the corn product left in the fields to help with soil erosion used to prevent infestations of insects. Please research properly where you are getting your water from, considering that the last “spring” I checked out on here was beneath an active cemetery which has people who died from cholera there and the water has been deemed unsafe decades ago and has ever since and will be dangerous into perpetuity. Just saying there are worse things than chlorine and fluoride in so called “spring” sources, this used of the word is a misnomer. Its ok, Ice Mountain isn’t Spring based either, its actually just lake Michigan water handed out to the midwest region, is it actually safer—well it got a D rating, considering the best bottled water gets a B and most get a F who knows…

  28. Anthony says:

    How long have all you been drinking from this spring (well)? Does the high TDS have any negative effects over time? Thank you!!

  29. Arthur Novak says:

    Had Water Tested. Ph 7.7. TDS 600 and Total Hardness 240

  30. Chaya says:

    This is an Artesian Well. Not a spring. People have been coming to this well

    since I was a child and I am in my mid-50′s. The Italians in the neighborhood would come here to get water to make wine. I know folks who, for the most part won’t drink anything but this water and will come to the well at least once a week and stockpile the water.

    This explains how Artesian Wells work.

    http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/gwartesian.html

    and, this explains Springs

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_(hydrology)

    And, I hate to be “nit-picky” but Nathan, if you are going to correct people, whether on content, accuracy or semantics, it is imperative that you are 100% correct in your entire post. You used the word “infers” ; ” spring water infers [sic] that it originated from a spring”

    1) I believe you meant to say “Spring water IMPLIES”. In my explanation, I IMPLIED you were incorrect. From my explanation, you INFERRED that you were incorrect. Please, do look it up. Additionally, spring water need not flow down a mountain collecting all sorts of contaminants along it’s way. In actuality, a spring is underground, much like a well. Often, when one things of a spring, it is similar to a “babbling brook”. Generally, a spring is often times, free flowing, while a well is generally pumped.

    There are dozens of other errors in your post, but it is not my intent to “grade your work” only to suggest that you may want to make sure YOU are 100% correct is anything you write when pointing out that someone else is wrong.

    That is all.

  31. Suburban Refugee says:

    Talk with people at the pump, hear their stories, then do your research & you will find out its called the silurian-devonian aquifer. It is essentially sourced under/around lake superior. All the wells for it in Illinois are deep beneath the bedrock. There were & would still be springs if the area wasn’t so developed. You can still find real springs, yes springs plural, around the Waterfall Glen spring where most of the springs are located on a dragonfly preserve, different aquifer though.

    If you get a chance, listen to Daniel Vitalis talk about Artesian wells. He equates them similar to unripe fruit as you are pulling the water out of the ground a bit early opposed to it flowing out naturally. That is why the TDS & mineral content can be a little high. Thanx again D.V.!

    Oh, the paleo-water is fantastic btw!

  32. JJ says:

    Hey, i am planning on going to this well today or tomorrow to get some water. Can anyone confirm that it is operational. Today’s date Thursday August 29, 2013

    Thanks, JJ

  33. Schizandra says:

    Hello
    Today is January 24, 2014. I went to get some water from the well today with no luck. There was no water coming out of the pump. I guess the water froze because the cold temperatures we have had. Has this happened before? Do you know what would be the temperature to get water again?

    Thanks

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